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    Cheers guys. I'm going to have a play around with the different
    suggestions and see what works best for me.<br>
    <br>
    Steve.<br>
    <br>
    On 04/04/2011 11:45 PM, Cameron Royal wrote:
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      cite="mid:BANLkTinXE2ar2TbhB0QAzRsD=koZPbnZMw@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">Yeah Joel's right, if you are serious there are heaps
      good tools for texturing models - some others:
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href="http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/pc/index?id=13565063&siteID=123112">http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/pc/index?id=13565063&siteID=123112</a></div>
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          href="http://www.pixologic.com/home.php">http://www.pixologic.com/home.php</a><br>
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            href="http://www.luxology.com/modo/">http://www.luxology.com/modo/</a></div>
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            href="http://www.nevercenter.com/silo/">http://www.nevercenter.com/silo/</a></div>
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        <div>Something else you might want to keep your eye on is
          procedurally generated textures. The tool is bit naff but the
          technology behind it and the end result is very cool, you
          might call these the texturing tools of 2011+</div>
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          <span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family:
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              Royal<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Joel
            Blackwell <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:joel@superfurious.com">joel@superfurious.com</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
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              "...tweaking of textures is done using some combination of
              Photoshop and Max / Maya / XSI etc"<br>
              <br>
              That's the year 2000 method.<br>
              <br>
              If you're an artist, buy 3D Coat. There's a Linux version
              (beta). If you're only capable of programmer art, the Gimp
              method will suffice ;)<br>
              <br>
              -Joel
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                <br>
                On 4/04/2011 2:55 PM, Cameron Royal wrote:<br>
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                  It all depends on why you are making a game.<br>
                  <br>
                  Definitely try Unity if you just want to create and
                  publish a game on<br>
                  any of the platforms it supports.<br>
                  <br>
                  If however you are studying programming and are
                  interested in learning<br>
                  more about the internals of a game engine anything
                  from the maths /<br>
                  geometry libraries to physics, graphics, networking,
                  sound etc then<br>
                  writing everything from scratch can be extremely
                  rewarding and<br>
                  educational. Just realize that going down this path
                  will likely mean you<br>
                  get a pretty dodgy game at the end of it, or it takes
                  so long that you<br>
                  never finish / publish / profit.<br>
                  <br>
                  As for you original question, most games are going to
                  have the art<br>
                  pretty much done before it even hits the game engine
                  so the iteratively<br>
                  tweaking of textures is done using some combination of
                  Photoshop and Max<br>
                  / Maya / XSI etc. If you're doing it all yourself on
                  linux then you can<br>
                  use something like gimp, and a refresh button like
                  Sean mentioned to<br>
                  reload the opengl textures.<br>
                  <br>
                  Taking this one step further, under linux you can use
                  inotify from the<br>
                  linux kernel to monitor when your texture files change
                  and trigger a reload.<br>
                  <br>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-ubuntu-inotify/index.html"
                    target="_blank">http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-ubuntu-inotify/index.html</a><br>
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                  Hope that helps,<br>
                  <br>
                  Cameron Royal<br>
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                  On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Paul Turbett (Black
                  Lab Games)<br>
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                  <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                  <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                    target="_blank">paul@blacklabgames.com.au</a>>>
                  wrote:<br>
                  <br>
                     +1 for Unity<br>
                  <br>
                     Don't waste time writing a game engine these days,
                  unless the game<br>
                     is based<br>
                     on some super experimental tech ideas, or you are
                  working on a platform<br>
                     Unity doesn't support. Or you are using Linux. :(<br>
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                     L8r, Paul<br>
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                     Subject: Re: [PIGMI] Texturing software<br>
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                     On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Michael B <<a
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                <div class="im">    <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                    target="_blank">gmail.com</a> <<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://gmail.com"
                    target="_blank">http://gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
                      > I've never seen a game being able to refresh
                  a texture when it<br>
                     has been<br>
                      > modified outside its program, but im sure it
                  wouldnt be too hard<br>
                     to make a<br>
                      > button that refreshes / reloads all models in
                  a game.<br>
                  <br>
                     Unity3D does it, automagically. It detects any
                  asset changes made<br>
                     outside the editor and reloads them. Models,
                  textures, audio,<br>
                     whatever.  And it is free of charge to use.<br>
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                     -Sw.<br>
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