[PIGMI] TRON the game

Liam Jones ijebus at hotmail.com
Thu Dec 23 07:41:49 PST 2010 

Slightly unrelated to the topic of TRON, but did anyone else watch/enjoy the 
Bad Company 2 Map Pack 7 Trailer? (Exhibit A: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQeGJfNV-F4). I don't usually get my rocks 
off on advertising for video games, but I find that EA usually does a pretty 
good job of matching up catchy tunes with their games (Exhibit B: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeJ1G-JFp6A). Not just that, but the timing 
of the sound effects going with the music.

The Left 4 Dead TV spots are another pretty good example of this, imo 
(Exhibit C: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exjhztp_IQY).

Am I alone on these feelings or are there others out there feeling like 
these are advertisements done well?

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From: "Damian Del Borrello" <damofo at me.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 6:55 PM
To: <pigmi at pigmi.org>
Subject: Re: [PIGMI] TRON the game

> Hey George,
>
> Sorry for the late reply, been flat out getting work done before Xmas.
>
> When I talk about a soundtrack am 100% talking about the combination of 
> those elements (D,M,E) and it comes from the physical 'track' of sound 
> that exists on a film print for a movie (it says this in the wiki link you 
> sent - talking about the origin of the word). Since all movies that have 
> major distribution (some limited release movies too) are still exhibited 
> using 35mm film projectors I think it is still a very current term. It's a 
> turn of phrase that I picked up while being mentored by some of 
> australia's top mixers and sound designers at AFTRS. It is very much an 
> industry standard in describing the sound and music for a movie. Most of 
> the top sound designers and mixers in the gaming industry use the word it 
> in that way too.
>
> Semantic - no, pedantic - yes! : D
> Like everyone on this list I'm very passionate about my craft and believe 
> it's important for people to understand our value as technical artisans 
> and respect what we do. I think discussions like this are always great for 
> highlighting the 'unseen' collaborators role and raising awareness of the 
> importance of every creative team member in a production.
>
> *phew* I have a dream!!
>
> Cheers,
>
> daMo
>
> On 22/12/2010, at 8:56 PM, George <gt at crunchyfrog.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Hi Damian,
>>
>> That seems overly semantic - it's widely accepted to refer to the music 
>> score of a film as the "soundtrack".
>>
>>        Web definitions for Movie soundtrack
>>        A soundtrack can be recorded music accompanying and synchronized 
>> to the images of a motion picture, television program or video game; a 
>> ...
>>        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movie_soundtrack - Definition in context
>>
>> In this case specifically referring to Daft Punk. I wouldn't classify 
>> them as 'film makers'.
>>
>> I think the point you are making is that there was collaboration between 
>> the film makers and Daft Punk, such that they can indeed claim a degree 
>> of credit for the score? (correct me if I'm wrong).
>>
>> If so, fair enough. I agree the music was perfectly suited to the film - 
>> both supremely unimaginative and dull :)
>>
>>
>> On 22/12/2010 5:28 PM, Damian Del Borrello wrote:
>>> I have to pipe in here.
>>> The soundtrack of a movie is made up of a few components: dialogue, 
>>> music and effects.
>>>
>>> There are two heads of department that are responsible for making the 
>>> soundtrack; the sound designer (sometimes called the supervising sound 
>>> editor) and thhe composer. BOTH of these people, in the context of a 
>>> movie (especially one so reliant on the soundtrack) are considered to be 
>>> 'film makers'.
>>>
>>> BTW derezzed IMHO is a killer track...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> daMo
>>>
>>> On 22/12/2010, at 8:13 PM, George<gt at crunchyfrog.com.au>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can't believe you guys are serious. The film is good by virtue of the 
>>>> soundtrack, which wasn't even made by the movie makers themselves... 
>>>> ??? That's almost like saying a movie was good because the seats were 
>>>> comfortable ;)
>>>>
>>>> And speaking of the soundtrack...here's a link to tron/daft punk 
>>>> facebook page:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.facebook.com/Tron?v=app_154470761259443&ref=ts
>>>>
>>>> Scroll down a bit and you can press play to listen to derezzed.
>>>>
>>>> One techno riff about 2 seconds long, repeated over and over with some 
>>>> heavy doof doof added in.
>>>>
>>>> I like doof. But if this is "killer"....then dare I ask what 
>>>> constitutes "bad"? :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 22/12/2010 4:40 PM, Andy Hawkins wrote:
>>>>> thank you simon.  Yeah the soundtrack was killer.  So back to my 
>>>>> original question, anyone played the game yet?
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy H.
>>>>>> +1 (to what Simon wrote)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Simon 
>>>>>> Wittber<simonwittber at gmail.com<mailto:simonwittber at gmail.com>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:16 AM, George<gt at crunchyfrog.com.au
>>>>>>    <mailto:gt at crunchyfrog.com.au>>  wrote:
>>>>>>    >  No spoilers here:
>>>>>>    >
>>>>>>    >  The film was at all times tedious, witless, nonsensical and
>>>>>>    completely
>>>>>>    >  pointless.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    I've just seen it, and I respectfully disagree. The soundtrack is 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>    best I've heard in a long time, the CG is outstanding and I would
>>>>>>    recommend the film. Some very powerful moments during the picture.
>>>>>>    Enjoyed it a lot!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    -Sw.
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