[PIGMI] TRON the game

Wesley Lamont pigmi at raez.net
Mon Dec 27 16:26:41 PST 2010 

My review of this thread:
I was unlucky to have been out of the state for the release of this latest masterpiece so I think the anticipation was raised upon seeing the impressive length. The twists and turns in the plot were quite enjoyable and the interplay between characters  was something I haven't laughed so hard at in a while. The scenes with the Cake and then the Pie with the cameo from Painting were truly magnificent. The twist at the end from Liam really got my brain in a knot. Overall I give this debate a 2 out of 10 as I was not supplied with cake at the commencement of this debate though the soundtrack was apparently Killer. :)

As for opinions, they are all subjective and different for every person, what one person loves one person will hate. Not only that but the key element missing I think is that everyones opinion on opinions is also variable. For one person an experience is only above average if every single aspect is perfect, where others can view the same thing with only one element decent and rate the entire experience as brilliant.

As I have seen Tron my personal view using a cake analogy:
There was probably too much sponge in the cakes content for my liking, the layers seemed quite standard though there was some ingredients missing from the earlier cake this was based on. The icing was beautiful to look at so I enjoyed the look of the cake and then closed my eyes and enjoyed the rest without thinking too hard about it. It does lend itself rather well to food fights as some of the ingredients could be wrapped in a food fight game readily.

Hope everyone had a great Xmas

WEZ!

On 23/12/2010, at 11:41 PM, Liam Jones wrote:

> Slightly unrelated to the topic of TRON, but did anyone else watch/enjoy the Bad Company 2 Map Pack 7 Trailer? (Exhibit A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQeGJfNV-F4). I don't usually get my rocks off on advertising for video games, but I find that EA usually does a pretty good job of matching up catchy tunes with their games (Exhibit B: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeJ1G-JFp6A). Not just that, but the timing of the sound effects going with the music.
> 
> The Left 4 Dead TV spots are another pretty good example of this, imo (Exhibit C: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exjhztp_IQY).
> 
> Am I alone on these feelings or are there others out there feeling like these are advertisements done well?
> 
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> From: "Damian Del Borrello" <damofo at me.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 6:55 PM
> To: <pigmi at pigmi.org>
> Subject: Re: [PIGMI] TRON the game
> 
>> Hey George,
>> 
>> Sorry for the late reply, been flat out getting work done before Xmas.
>> 
>> When I talk about a soundtrack am 100% talking about the combination of those elements (D,M,E) and it comes from the physical 'track' of sound that exists on a film print for a movie (it says this in the wiki link you sent - talking about the origin of the word). Since all movies that have major distribution (some limited release movies too) are still exhibited using 35mm film projectors I think it is still a very current term. It's a turn of phrase that I picked up while being mentored by some of australia's top mixers and sound designers at AFTRS. It is very much an industry standard in describing the sound and music for a movie. Most of the top sound designers and mixers in the gaming industry use the word it in that way too.
>> 
>> Semantic - no, pedantic - yes! : D
>> Like everyone on this list I'm very passionate about my craft and believe it's important for people to understand our value as technical artisans and respect what we do. I think discussions like this are always great for highlighting the 'unseen' collaborators role and raising awareness of the importance of every creative team member in a production.
>> 
>> *phew* I have a dream!!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> daMo
>> 
>> On 22/12/2010, at 8:56 PM, George <gt at crunchyfrog.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Damian,
>>> 
>>> That seems overly semantic - it's widely accepted to refer to the music score of a film as the "soundtrack".
>>> 
>>>       Web definitions for Movie soundtrack
>>>       A soundtrack can be recorded music accompanying and synchronized to the images of a motion picture, television program or video game; a ...
>>>       en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movie_soundtrack - Definition in context
>>> 
>>> In this case specifically referring to Daft Punk. I wouldn't classify them as 'film makers'.
>>> 
>>> I think the point you are making is that there was collaboration between the film makers and Daft Punk, such that they can indeed claim a degree of credit for the score? (correct me if I'm wrong).
>>> 
>>> If so, fair enough. I agree the music was perfectly suited to the film - both supremely unimaginative and dull :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 22/12/2010 5:28 PM, Damian Del Borrello wrote:
>>>> I have to pipe in here.
>>>> The soundtrack of a movie is made up of a few components: dialogue, music and effects.
>>>> 
>>>> There are two heads of department that are responsible for making the soundtrack; the sound designer (sometimes called the supervising sound editor) and thhe composer. BOTH of these people, in the context of a movie (especially one so reliant on the soundtrack) are considered to be 'film makers'.
>>>> 
>>>> BTW derezzed IMHO is a killer track...
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> daMo
>>>> 
>>>> On 22/12/2010, at 8:13 PM, George<gt at crunchyfrog.com.au>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I can't believe you guys are serious. The film is good by virtue of the soundtrack, which wasn't even made by the movie makers themselves... ??? That's almost like saying a movie was good because the seats were comfortable ;)
>>>>> 
>>>>> And speaking of the soundtrack...here's a link to tron/daft punk facebook page:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/Tron?v=app_154470761259443&ref=ts
>>>>> 
>>>>> Scroll down a bit and you can press play to listen to derezzed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> One techno riff about 2 seconds long, repeated over and over with some heavy doof doof added in.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I like doof. But if this is "killer"....then dare I ask what constitutes "bad"? :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 22/12/2010 4:40 PM, Andy Hawkins wrote:
>>>>>> thank you simon.  Yeah the soundtrack was killer.  So back to my original question, anyone played the game yet?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Andy H.
>>>>>>> +1 (to what Simon wrote)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Simon Wittber<simonwittber at gmail.com<mailto:simonwittber at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:16 AM, George<gt at crunchyfrog.com.au
>>>>>>>   <mailto:gt at crunchyfrog.com.au>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>   >  No spoilers here:
>>>>>>>   >
>>>>>>>   >  The film was at all times tedious, witless, nonsensical and
>>>>>>>   completely
>>>>>>>   >  pointless.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   I've just seen it, and I respectfully disagree. The soundtrack is the
>>>>>>>   best I've heard in a long time, the CG is outstanding and I would
>>>>>>>   recommend the film. Some very powerful moments during the picture.
>>>>>>>   Enjoyed it a lot!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   -Sw.
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